decompression cable replacement

Cylinder head, Barrel, Gearbox, Crank
Post Reply
Back Roads Rider
No Gold Stars Yet
No Gold Stars Yet
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:38 am
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: Yamaha xt600 Z Tenere
Previously Owned Bikes: Honda CB 360T
Yamaha DT 175
Location: Brisbane, Australia

decompression cable replacement

Post by Back Roads Rider »

I need to replace the decompression cable on my 1983 39e Tenere but as luck would have it I can not find my service manual. Would someone please post the steps required to adjust the cable.
User avatar
Mezo
Dashingly Handsome
Dashingly Handsome
Posts: 6108
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:01 am
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: Kymco agility 125 ;-)
Previously Owned Bikes: Honda SS50, Suzuki TS50, Honda CB100, Honda CR125RZ, Yamaha YZ125, Kawasaki KX250, Suzuki TL1000S, Ducati 900SS, Ducati 900SL, a few Tenere`s.
Location: Queensland Australia
Contact:

Re: decompression cable replacement

Post by Mezo »

Ive sent you two emails (PDF`s) my scanner shit itself & so i had to take two pictures (hence the size so you can read it) :sherlock:

That`s out of the Clymer book, which tells you the procedure.

Mezo.
"A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion"
Back Roads Rider
No Gold Stars Yet
No Gold Stars Yet
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:38 am
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: Yamaha xt600 Z Tenere
Previously Owned Bikes: Honda CB 360T
Yamaha DT 175
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Re: decompression cable replacement

Post by Back Roads Rider »

Got it. Thanks for that.
motorang
Halfway there
Halfway there
Posts: 475
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:41 am
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: XT600Z 1VJ
Location: Graz, Austria
Contact:

Re: decompression cable replacement

Post by motorang »

Off Topic:
I always found it more useful to actuate the decompression manually, as on the older thumpers.
Any old bicycle lever will do the job, but then you need to make your own cable. I converted that 30 years ago:

Image

Andy
Chop your own wood and it will warm you twice (Henry Ford)
Back Roads Rider
No Gold Stars Yet
No Gold Stars Yet
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:38 am
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: Yamaha xt600 Z Tenere
Previously Owned Bikes: Honda CB 360T
Yamaha DT 175
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Re: decompression cable replacement

Post by Back Roads Rider »

That is not a bad idea.
I have a basic understanding of how the original decompression system works on the bike but not the finer details. So how do you know where on the engine cycle when to set the decompression on? I am assuming here that the decompresser needs to be set at a certain engine position otherwise why do we need to rotate the motor until the mechanism kicks in. Also wouldn't it be on when it initially starts and stay on until you move the lever off?
motorang
Halfway there
Halfway there
Posts: 475
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:41 am
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: XT600Z 1VJ
Location: Graz, Austria
Contact:

Re: decompression cable replacement

Post by motorang »

Hi,
I am not using the original mechanism any more, which is coupled with the kickstart mechanism. Instead I am only using that lever, like on any twinshock XT500, TT500 etc
No changes on the other end (cylinder head).

Basically you move the kickstarter until it hits compression, then you pull the decompression lever and move the kickstarter a bit further, possibly 10 cm or 4 inches below your foot, which lets the piston pass tdc (top dead center).

Then you let the kickstart lever go back to its top position, let the decompressor go and kick with force.

One big advantage of a manual deco is thet you can use it to get excess fuel out of the carb (e.g. when you dropped the XT) by kicking over several times with full throttle with ease.

A trick to set the piston to that position without manual decompressor (e.g. when the cable is gone): engage gear and roll bike backwards. The piston hits compression from the back side then, so again will sit past tdc when kicking.

Andy
Chop your own wood and it will warm you twice (Henry Ford)
User avatar
xtrider
Financial
Financial
Posts: 550
Joined: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:21 pm
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: 88 XT600 Yamaha , , 525XC KTM, '96 Kawasaki KLX650 , '05 Suzuki DRZ400, Suzuki LTR450
Previously Owned Bikes: 91 DR 650 Suzuki, 81 DS250 Suzuki, 73 ?250 Yamaha ,05 KLR650 , '02 DR650 Suzuki, Honda XL600R
Location: Wisconsin, USA

Re: decompression cable replacement

Post by xtrider »

That was what so many guys did with the Honda XL600's and XR's , remove the auto comp and go with the manual only , most without ever trying to use the auto system because others told them to. I've spent a lot of years and miles on both bikes and used both systems but never could see where the manual setup is easier (had to put it on my DRZ470 now), key was to have the auto decomp setup correctly and it did the same thing without needing to stop the kicking when it hit the comp , pull in the lever, then kick a certain amount, stop, release lever, then kick. With the auto decomp simply kick slowly till the "click" and your ready to start , simple . I had taken the manual decomp off my XL and only used the auto since it was the same procedure as the XT only it didn't have the audible click which is where I thought was why most didn't like it .

Flushing a flooded cylinder is probably easier with the manual , but not hard with the auto setup either , I've done it quit a few times.


.
'08 Husqvarna TE510 .. //..'05 Suzuki DRZ470 stroker bbore..//..'95 & '96 Kawasaki KLX650 ..//..'88 XT600 ..//.. '86XT600(body)3TB hi comp motor ..//.. '06 Suzuki LTR450 ..//
'09 525XC KTM .. //.. '85 XT600/660 (660 Raptor bottom)
Back Roads Rider
No Gold Stars Yet
No Gold Stars Yet
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:38 am
What Bike or Bikes Do You Own?: Yamaha xt600 Z Tenere
Previously Owned Bikes: Honda CB 360T
Yamaha DT 175
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Re: decompression cable replacement

Post by Back Roads Rider »

I have only ever had auto decompression and I can't complain about it. Perhaps tomorrow when the shop advises me of the replacement cost I may feel different. I seem to recall having read that having automatic decompression can help with engine kickback but I can't see why.
Post Reply