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Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:10 am
by Mezo
Same as the 3AJ i would imagine? (same motor) download the 3AJ service manual
HERE.
Mezo.
Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:03 pm
by GeoffD
Definitely top end I would say.... camshaft, tappets
Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:11 pm
by dan3
Thanks for the replies, I managed to download a 3yf service manual.
This auto-decompression system in the camshaft, does anyone have any experience of that failing? The manual doesn't go into much detail...
Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:33 pm
by Mezo
dan3 wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:11 pmI managed to download a 3yf service manual.
doesn't go into much detail...
None of the OEM manuals will go into detail as they were intended for use by trained Yammy tech`s unlike the Clymer manual which is more oriented towards the home mechanic.
Search the forum (top right) for decomp or decompression.
Mezo.
Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:04 pm
by donnybach
Just get TDC, the play at the top lever is 0.5mm. Don’t try to measure it, it’s the minimum movement you can get as free play. Should just feel it with your fingers. The adjustment is simple, halfway down the cable to the kickstart mech. Adjuster and locknut.
Point to note- ensure the cable isn’t pulled anywhere. ( once it’s adjusted and running, give it a tug and feel what happens, it’s acting on the exhaust valve, stopping it from closing fully, making noise and running turns to sheet. Or don’t, and take my word for it).

Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:49 pm
by dan3
Thanks for the reply donnybach, mine is a 3yf with the centrifugal decompression built into the camshaft.
I'll try to find a NOS camshaft, parts for this bike are common-ish and don't seem to cost too much
Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:27 pm
by donnybach

. Not seen that. My docs only go up to 1989. Interesting.
Having a bitch of a time with mine. Looks like a new stator may be called for.
I seem to have a love of all things requiring maintenance constantly. If I had a dog it would have 3 legs.

Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:14 pm
by dan3

I'm pretty much the same at the moment
Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:52 pm
by charliext1vj
Take the tank off and run a small fuel supply as tank will make the sound bounce. Also check the top engine mount - that wont be the issue but if loose they do generate noise. It sounds like more than one noise to me? i.e. there is piston slap as well as valves - assume somewhere in the messages some one said do a compression check too? good luck
Re: Diagnosing a lovely knocking noise
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:57 pm
by dan3
Piston and rings look alright, valves need a clean. Nothing really obvious.
Strange...